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Torturous Debate

November 6th, 2007 by Satan

There has been a buzz of late in blogs and other Web sites, over prospective Attorney General to be Michael B. Mukasey’s wishy-washy response to whether the practice of waterboarding is torture or not. AP article here.

William Cox, in a very thorough article on waterboarding on Buzzflash, describes the method quite accurately:

During water torture, the body and head of a victim are typically strapped to an inclined board with the head lower than the feet. The victim’s jaws are forced open and a cloth is forced deep into the mouth and over the nose. Water is continuously poured over and into the cloth forcing the victim to stop breathing until forced to either swallow water and/or aspirate it into the lungs, triggering the gag reflex.

Water torture results in controlled drowning, the degree of which depends upon the ability of an individual to resist and the will of the torturer. The punishment ranges from psychological torment and physical suffocation to death. At the least, water torture represents a mock execution. The primeval fear of asphyxiation leads to overwhelming panic in even the most disciplined individuals who may be trained and psychologically conditioned to die rather than submit.

Water torture can lead to serious injury to the victim. A lack of oxygen can quickly result in permanent brain damage, and the aspiration of even small amounts of water can lead to lung disease, including pneumonia. Struggles by the victim against the restraints can produce severe sprains and broken bones. Significantly, the intense fear of imminent death and the victim’s helplessness to prevent it produces devastating and long lasting psychological damage.

Put simply, for all of you ignorant pissants out there who can’t see past the “terrorism” colon surrounding your head; waterboarding is torture! It disgusts me that we even have to debate this! This is not the fashion of an educated and enlightened society, it is the action of the dark and malignant cruelty of tyranny. Those who support this practice in our government should be removed from office, stripped of rank, pulled from public service no matter what military or civilian position they hold. There is no room to be indecisive when it comes to the use of torture. It is vile and repugnant to the Constitution and the American way of life and should not be given the slightest breadth of tolerance!

If for one moment you think that this torture can’t be applied to you (as if that is justification of any kind), that it is reserved for only “the evil doers”; note that the Patriot Act allows any citizen of this nation to be taken away without charges filed, defined as a “enemy combatant”, without any right to legal council, due process of law or even the ability to contact anyone in the outside world - with only the say so of the President needed for this to occur! You and I are as much a target of this practice as any Islamic radical.

Waterboarding started in the Inquisition. It was used to torture people into confessing sins against the church. That Bush is supporting using it on people to torture them into confessing sins against the state, belays the same evil intent. The goal is not to gain information. It is simply to cause suffering against those who have been arbitrarily labeled guilty by the government, to manufacture stories and consent by force - in a sick attempt to elevate the methods and madness of government as being righteous.

Keith Olbermann expresses my entire raging ire on this, better than I can.

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2 Responses

  1. Dylan

    Hey come on gods on our side and it says torture thine foe in the bible I swear to god it does. You cant be a good Christian and not torture your foe.

  2. Satan

    You’re right, the Bible sure loves torture.

    • The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly. Proverbs 20:30
    • And it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten. Deuteronomy 25:2
    • A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool’s back. Proverbs 26:3
    • If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. Exodus 21:20-21
    • He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Proverbs 13:24
    • Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him. Proverbs 22:15
    • The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame. Proverbs 29:15
    • Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13-14
    • And he brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron, and made them pass through the brick-kiln: and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon. 2 Samuel 12:31
    • And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes. Even so dealt David with all the cities of the children of Ammon. 1 Chronicles 20:3
    • And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, saying, Ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons, or for yourselves. Nehemiah 13:25
    • And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors. Matthew 18:34
    • And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 22:12-13
    • If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.Psalm 89:31-2
    • And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. Revelation 9:5-6

    And of course, we can’t forget Hell. Eternal torture is the staple of Christian thought.

    • The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:41-42
    • And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. Luke 16:22-24
    • The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever. Revelation 14:10-11

    Many thanks to the Skeptic’s Annotated Bible for finding all of the above… http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

    I may have to re-think my position on the United States - We may just be a Christian nation after all.

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